Charmelle & Janette Text Joseph About Denise’s Embezzlement

Denise’s Response To Janette & Charmelle’s Claim

Janette’s Full Text To Joseph

I am glad that Hannah is doing better. I know this has been hard for you all.

You ask for a reason to as why why we 3 think what is going on is right.

I will give you some reasons and explain more of our side of things.

For one.. . After my dad died Puka wanted both Denise and I to be involved in the finances. But your mom took control and would not allow my involvement. Denise will tell you that I wanted to take over. Not true. I just asked to sit in on the meetings. Her and I argued on the phone one day that grandma asked me to come over while Denise reviewed the finances. We argued on the phone and grandma cried. Later grandma and I sat in her bedroom while she cried and told me that Denise was forcing the issue to not involve Janette. I then sat back and trusted Denise to do what was right. As I did not want puka to cry. I said nothing again until grandma moved into her new house and I asked what was happening with the old. Your mom sent me texts that a friend was going to buy it and if so Joey would pay what rent he could and Denise and Kevin would pay the rest to make it a fair rental deal. Then
another option was that Denise and Kevin would buy it and Joe would pay them rent. (I have all the texts if you want to see them) Lastly, (after Joe wan already living in the home) Denise wrote a contract for Joe to pay property tax and house insurance) Grandma told me that she was also waiting for a rent check. She misunderstood the deal Denise and Joe made. Who took advantage of who? Grandma feels that Denise took advantage of her.

No one is kicking him out to be homeless. We want him to pay rent until he finds another place to live.

This deal with Joe did not benefit all the beneficiaries. The Trust states that any changes need to benefit the beneficiaries.

It is not right that Joe gets the benefit of free rent. The other grandkids get nothing.

The $400,000 to Charmelle and I and the gifting of the home to Denise was John Martin’s idea. As, Charmelle, Puka and I felt to heal the family over the unfair house issue we needed to make things fair to all 3 of us girls.

No greed with the Trust by me. I have not received a dime.

Grandma came to me with several complaints about your mom’s handling of the Trust. She asked Charmelle and I to meet with David to put Charmelle and I as co Trustees with Denise. He did not want to do this. He suggested John Martin. He agreed until he saw that there would be no resolution with the house issue.

We went to an attorney in Boise and then moms attorney who created her original Trust and then back to David. After David talked to mom for 40 min he decided that he would change the Trustees.

You mother has come clean on a few things. She agreed that she has been tracking Puka on her phone. She agreed that she changed moms passwords on moms accounts so she could not access them. She has agreed that she has been embezzling money from mom’s Trust by writing checks to herself, Andrea and Josh.

Grandma has a list of reasons that Denise was not a good Trustee. One of the ones that made her consider removing Denise was because Denise would frequently tell Puka that her money and her house did not belong to mom. That Denise owned everything now. Denise did it jokingly but as she continued it was irritating to Puka. The Trust owns things, not Denise.

As far as my and Kelley’s finances. It really is no one’s business. But, I don’t like that she is telling people that Kelley took $40,000 of our money and hopped on a plane and went somewhere out east and lost it in investing it. She is delusional. Also, that we sold every home we owned at a loss? We sold one home at a loss as we moved out east. So what? Grandpa Puka lost millions in coin investing. Why do you and Denise judge me on my finances. The only thing grandpa Puka did not like was that Kelley and I tithe 10% and that we take one vacation a year. None of his business nor yours and your mother’s.

I’m sure your mother also told you that Kelley had an affair. Not true. But if he did that is our problem. He shared an office with a girl he became fond of. He quit that job as he knew it was wrong. He did not even kiss her….I’d hardly call that an affair.

Your mom sent me a text that her heart is black toward me because i made kevin cry not once but several times over Shawn’s death. Oh my what a lie! I made him cry once by asking if the doctor suctioned him before removing the tube. Is that really a reason to uninvited me and my family to Shawns funeral? She also blocked me from her phone.

Also, you mom says I denied my dad pain meds several times! What an exaggeration! The nurse opened the door and asked if Tom need more Pain meds. I looked at my dad and he was sound asleep and respiration were few. I told her that he was comfortable and your dad piped up and said no he needs meds. I then left with Kelley and Connor to lunch. He was gone when i got back. Denise exagerates on things like this. Your dad was there and could tell you that I said no to meds once. I don’t want to be accused of killing him. Your mom will tell you that her and Puka wanted him medicated every 20 min. The nurse can only do this if she sees symptoms of pain. Grandma will tell you that he was comfortable. He was unresponsive. I would never withhold pain meds from a person in pain.

Yes, I walked thru moms new home and made minimal comments on things I liked. Yes, it hurt her that I was not overjoyed with her new home. I told her all I saw was all the fixing that needed done and Kelley and I would not have the time to help. Yes, I sent her 2 listing of 2 homes on the market. She had told me that there was nothing on the market. I sent her 2 listing of 2 move in ready homes that were beautiful and less money. Grandma will now tell you that she made a mistake purchasing the home. She says she did not realize all the work. New carpet, flooring paint, landscaping. The cabinets all need tore out and replaced. She admits that she made a mistake in purchasing a home at that price that needed so many repairs. But now she is stuck with it. She does like the floorplan.

When we had lunch at Garibaldis that was actually before Shawn died. I don’t remember twirling my finger around my ear. But if it did the conversation we were having was all about the issues you had with your mother over Hannah and that you didn’t talk to your parents for many months and that your dad did not even reach out to you. I listened and agreed with you on the way your mother was.

I don’t understand how you and your family would actually think that I would say the sentence that Andrea repeats about me telling her that hospice would make her die. Another nurse was in there as well and will tell you that I did not talk that way.

Your mom also said in a text that I did not support mom after dad’s death and that I was heartless and had no sympathy. Again a lie. I called Puka every night up until Charmelle moved here. I took Puka to church on Sundays and out to Denneys afterwards. We went to lunch 1-2 times a week. I spent a lot of Saturdays with her and she came over on weekends and hung out with us. Hmmmm, she tells me that I am her rock.

Charmelle moving here. She says she has experienced first hand the way Denise is. She now sees that Denise was the one who manipulated Puka after dad died. Mom was numb and let Denise take over. Puka is no longer grieving as much. She has decided to make her own decisions. All the Trust stuff has been her making decisions. Charmelle and I have not received any money. No greed here with me. Yes, grandma made the decision to have Joe move out. Not me. And not Charmelle.

Also, did you know that your mother and father attempted to get me fired from my job? Eddie, has text from your dad. Your mom called my bosses twice in attempts to fire me. The first time I was getting out of the elevator and your mom asked me to come say hi to Andrea. I went down with your mom, stood in the doorway for a few minutes and left. Your mom then sent an email to administration and told them that I came to visit Andrea after seeing Covid patient. This is true as I am a nurse and Andrea was on the Covid floor. All her nurses had been taking care of Covid patients! That’s what we do! Then your mom saw on TV where nurses wear special suits when seeing Covid patient. Your mom saw that I wore an N95 mask and a gown. She told administration that I did not wear proper PPE when seeing Covid patients! Oh,my! She then got Kevin to work with Eddie to get me fired. Eddie refused and
contacted Kelley. That would have been devastating to me and my family if she succeeded in getting me fired. Your mom has spend almost 2 years trying to ruin me. I have so missed not being a part of family events over the past 2 years. Unfortunatley, things have gone so far and I dont think we will we ever be able to mend the family.

There is so much more. I had 2 years of mean, nasty texts from your mother. She has hacked all of our phones and removed them.

So, this is some of the other side of the story. Believe what you want but pleas do not send anymore hurtful texts to me.

With every nasty text your mother sent me I would reply by asking her to get with me and let’s talk. She always refused. I would tell her that I loved her and did not want to respond with texts. If she still has all the texts ask her to show them to you as you will she her exagerations and how I responded.

She needs help. She has had on and off again relationships with Joe and Andrea, blocks them, won’t talk to them. Months of not talking to you. 5 years of not talking to charmelle. She didnt go to coffee to Pukas while dad was still alive because she was mad at something. Now me, nasty text to me over the past 2 years.

I have spent 2 years asking her to sit and talk with me. She refuses and loves to text.

I miss my family. Things did not have to go this far.

Denise loves drama and control. Sad.

Charmelle’s Full Text To Joseph

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We are down to hear your ideas. Not sure if we can move forward with any as we need to have our court case settled with your mother first. We need to see how much money she has embezzled out of the trust. She definitely has not reached out to grandma to pay her back yet. That’s criminal fraud. You know I think she could get jail time if prosecuted. I have told you before none of this would’ve happened if she didn’t toy around with us. We just wanted something fair from the beginning.
Anyways waiting for your ideas to be emailed over.

Denise’s Full Email to Marjorie

Oct 18, 2022 at 8:56 AM

mom,

i am truely sorry for the hurt i have cause you and the miscommunication  about joe paying rent. 

How i perceived it, joe is paying rent in the form of- property taxes, house insurance and all repairs to the house and you can come enjoy the house anytime you want.

We were both aware that joe cant pay much so i was keeping it around the same amount as he was paying in mortgage.

 i forfited $400,000 of my Inheritance so the house can stay in the bloodline for you.

 $400,000 that i will never see again. 

i am thankful that  i don’t need to rely on the inheritance that you are leaving me as i am the only sibling that could of done this for you. 

Money means nothing to me and i am glad to of giving up $400,000 

as your happiness means more to me then money.

you and dad lived in that house for 19 yrs and i was hoping joe would be able to continue to live there for the next 19 yrs.

i have texts on my phone between us clear back to the start of joe moving in to that house and i cant find 1 single text where you are not happy that joe isnt paying rent and you want him to pay. 

i was completely clueless that you were  wanting joe to pay more as you never expressed anything to me.

i first found out about this when john martin told me that janette and charmelle are wanting $400,000 ea taken out of the The revocable trust right now.

I came unglued !! then i got a email from David stating that what john is asking is in violation of the trust and will cost lots in court fee.

 i fought back to protect you and your money and told david that no one is getting any of your money !

then janette and charmelle were wanting $1975/mo plus back payment as they didnt think it was fair that they arent receiving anything.

i am glad that my kids know and understand that what i do for each of them is a unique decision based on their own needs.i am glad  racheal,andrea and josh arent about greed and demanding that i give them each a $400,000 house.my kids aren’t perfect but one thing they have learned from their parents is that the greed of money is the root of all evil.
i am sorry that i started paying charmelle $1000/mo without your consent. that was very wrong of me. i just didnt know what else to do.every morning was the same routine. charmelle complaining and nagging about everything.i felt like a mom in line at the grocery store checkout with a 2 yr old child having a temper tantrum over candy. the mom finally gives in and gave that child candy just to shut them up.same senerio to what i did with charmelle.
yes, i was spying on you thru your credit card and phone calls, so janette was correct when she told joe that.i was worried and just trying to protect you from whatever you were planning to do nextyes, i changed the password to the zions trust accout only because i feel your finances are none of janetttes business and i was assuming you were going to show janette. it was wrong of me 
one thing that i did not like janette telling joe was the fact that you both don’t trust me with your money.i have been trustee for as long ad i can remember and i have never ever stolen money from you for my own pleasure.except for those silver coins as a teenager i did not put that zion trust money into your your irrevocable trust for a reason.i wanted you to have fun with that money. spend it, spend it, spend iti wanted you to have. i wanted you to enjoy it and buy whatever you want.you derseve that money for you

you will see that every dime taken out of that account was a check for you and your wants except for payment to charmelle

i had a feeling that i was going to be taken off as trustee and replace by janette and charmelle, and i wanted to protect that zion money so neither could do what they wanted with it. recently, i started withdrawling money from it with every intension of saving it for you and you only.

the bank would not let me withdrawl anymore as it has to be checks

and i cant write checks to me as i can’t claim any income so i wrote it to josh and andrea.

then 2 checks i had to put a stop payment on them as i am not trustee anymore when i wrote them

when i am able, i will deposit it into your personal bank acct.

i would rather give it to you for your safe but i need a paper trail.

in our meeting with john

you never mentioned wanting joe to pay more or we could of discussed it and came up with a solution to please everyone. 

we also ended up agreeing to keep everything as is. you gave john a hug and thanked him,

that night you sent me this text

sleep tight my dear
daughter. mistakes
have been made, by
me. but i’ve been
grieving for dad and not
thinking straight.
anyhow, i am just going
to let everything stay as
is. you have done such
a great job with this
estate. no one could
have did it but you. i
don’t want continued
fighting among our
family. i love all of my
girls and each of you is
special in your own way.

then the next day john got a text from janette, saying that you feel defeated and don’t know what to do.

 it is long so i will send it in a second email.

and now here we are today

going to battle everything out in court over what ?

miscommunication of what joe is to pay?

our whole family broken and torn apart 

i was really hoping for a meeting with all of us and david to all sit down together and talk and find a solution,

david emailed me and said you would love to have a meeting  and would talk it over with janette and charmelle.

did david tell you that i was going to pay for this meeting?

an appointment was made then canceled.

looks like it is to late.

your decision is made

all i can say is i am sorry and i take full responsibility for the problems i have caused

love you

denise